Plato and toadfrog have said all I wanted to say, but I must say I find the third and fifth posts above very refreshing. It's nice to know that such cogent and well thought opinions can be so freely expressed. I'm minded of a device introduced to me some fifty odd years ago, consisting of three columns from which one selected at random two adjectives and a noun to produce a totally meaningless but resounding phrase, the developers have I believe gone on to found the whole acedemic study of business.

Pete M