Rick, I'm conservative, and neither of them speak for me; they never ever have. And I agree completely with Armen.

What Jerry and Pat may not realize is that there are a LOT of people in this country who do not make a public show of their religion, whatever it may be. I think the US is a religious country, a country of many different religions and spiritualities, with good people in all of them. Just because they are not immediately visible does not mean they don't exist.

I think Jerry and Pat are wrong.