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Thread #38937   Message #551249
Posted By: GUEST,just a nobody
15-Sep-01 - 11:49 PM
Thread Name: Prayer-Free Mourning
Subject: RE: Prayer-Free Mourning
Partisanship is alive and well, I see. I'm glad to see that war is such a horrible horrible thing. I'm glad to see that those that fought for the freedoms, that most take forgranted, have been slapped in the face by their descendents. I suppose 'War-mongers' 'hawks' 'heartless' 'cold-blooded' 'baby killers' like myself, think of war very differently than many of you. My God, have you people forgotten the sacrafices made by our ancestors here? Read the Declaration of Independence. Look at those names on the bottom. That declaration, which led to the birth of this country, was a DECLARATION OF WAR! Do you know what it meant to have your name on that document? High treason, a death sentence. These men, and the countless others that fought for this country, did not fight for a document, a piece of paper that could be torn, or lost. They fought for a principle. They wrote the constitution with their blood. The freedom you enjoy today was paid for with thier 'pound of flesh.' But now, I suppose we should remember them as 'War mongers' and 'hawks.'

One person, in another thread said something along the lines of being tired of 'big-dicked' patriotism. Am I patriotic, yes. Do I mourn the dead, yes. Do I look forward to war, No. Do I celebrate the death caused by war, No. Will war happen, lets pray that it won't, but understand that it does.

Where did the admiration that we once held for those that made the ultimate sacrifice for thier country, go? At what point did those that fought for our independence go from 'heros' and 'patriots' to 'war mongers.' Was my Great grand Father's sacrifice for nothing in WWI? My grandfather who suffered through WWII. Should we have done nothing? Should we have not become involved, so that we could be the better of the world, be gentler and kinder, be forgiving and understanding. What would have become of our world?

Those that wish to turn the other cheek, and forgive those that struck us. To try to understand why, or say that it is our fault that this attack happened. Please, explain to the person who went to work, answered the phones and then died. Where they the enemy? Was it thier fault the government upset someone? Do you think the groups that attack like this GIVE A SHIT about your understanding? This will not end, not by all joining hands and singing a song about 'peace love and understanding.' If they gave a CRAP about your understanding, and your notion of what is right, do you think so many CITIZENS would have died.

For those I offend, I am sorry. But I have seen too many threads, too many messages, that we should lay down. That our country, and others, should understand that these terrorists were just trying to make a point. That we, as a people, should not desire to hunt them down. I have seen messages saying that waving the flag is innapropriate. Who are any of you to tell me, or anyone, how they should mourn, what they need to cling to for support. I've even seen messages that blame religion.. Religion Out I think it was.

I am sorry to have rambled, but seeing how many people seem to have forgotten how many people have died for their freedoms. I pray it is that they forgot, or is it that they view those brave men and women that gave them the freedoms they have, as 'monsters.' Yes, I am patriotic, I mourn those we have lost. I have a sick feeling inside that we will see the true monsters soon. Those that will celebrate when we do go to war. Those that will make it appear that all of us, are the same as the killers we hunt down. Mourn not only for our dead, But for the killing that will come. War is a horrible thing. It must be seen as such, and that sword should only be used in such a solmn and respected manner. Each dreaded stroke, each bloodied thrust, takes from us all. But from such wounds, healing comes. And with luck, the lessons learned, not forgotten by our grand children, as they seem to have been with us. What lesson? That war is not to be taken lightly, but with great care, and concern.

"For God doth know how many, now in health, Shall drop their blood in approbation Of what your reverence shall incite us to. Therefore take heed how you impawn our person, How you awake our sleeping sword of war- We charge you, in the name of God, take heed; For never two such kingdoms did contend Without much fall of blood; whose guiltless drops Are every one a woe, a sore complaint, 'Gainst him whose wrongs gives edge unto the swords That makes such waste in brief mortality." Henry V