Donuel, I don't know about others, but I really wish you'd keep just one thread going on your feelings about these events. It's getting hard to keep up with what is where, and harder still to discuss your ideas. And the titles are getting to look like a bunch of posters on the sidewalk at a protest. Do you want to discuss, or just to proclaim your upset? Because I think most of us think there is a difference between a discussion forum and bulleting board or a demonstration.~Susan