I honestly do not know your definition of trolling.

DougR in effect said that the only reason he started the thread was so that he could bait what he calls "liberals" Yes it is his right to express his opinions. But is it right for him to ask for mine so that he can ridicule it? That comes pretty close to some of the definitions of trolling which I have read here. I answered him in good faith expecting that he was actually asking my opinion. I was wrong. I will know better the next time. I'll probably just start my own thread as is my right.

DougR in answer to your question. George made one of the best political speeches I have heard in my life. And I am old enough to have heard some good ones. He was well prepared, confident and articulate. For that you should be proud of him.

I am still afraid.

Why did he have to lie about the reasons for the attack. Who in the world is naive enough to believe that 19 ment would kill themselves because they are jealous of freedom and democracy? It harkens back to Regan's "Evil Empire" speech. America, this kind of talk make other countries worry about the sanity of the person saying it.

BTW the way DougR from what I have read of your previous posts, I believe that I am more politically conservative than you. But being Canadian, my definition of liberal is not "one who dissagrees with Republicans."