Doug, Troll, to say that a man is an outstanding speaker, and a consumate politician is hardly praise! It's what's in a mans heart that counts not how well he bamboozles the public with well chosen words.

Jimmy Carter was an ineffective president, but, a genuinely good man. Nixon was just the opposite.

Besides, you conservatives should be grateful to Ted Kennedy. When he opposed Carter, he handed the presidency to Raygun.