Clinton...I post useful & alternative programs all the time..the truth is, most people consider it a nuisance to have to deal with finding, installing & understanding new programs *unless* they see an immediate and direct need... 'improving' and going beyond the basics is not for everyone. The virus scares have gotten a few folks to add an anti-virus and a 'few' have gotten a firewall...and a VERY few have changed email programs to something other than Outlook Express or Netscape or AOL.....I have no idea why I, at the age of 60, took to figuring out this stuff and enjoying exploring for new & better (and mostly free) programs to make using the PC easier and safer. I have barely touched the heaps of fascinating things I have found...security programs, backup proggies, graphics editors, desktop publishing gadgets, fonts,...etc..etc...and if someone asks, I'll offer what I have, but there is no use waving Jabber or Trillian in front of folks who are happy with AIM & ICQ...mostly... I find that Trillian allows the best aspects of ICQ and IRC...instant response and a running log...but it has a 'different' feel...and requires a learning curve of sorts. so....*shrug*....I just don't fret about it...(look how little response the Opera thread got, relatively)but yep...I shall try Jabber soon....after I finish installing my latest unzippers, PIMs and improvements on Windows Explorer..(you mean YOU don't have "Servant Salamander" or "PowerDesk" or "TurboNavigator" yet?...tsk! *grin*)