I'm a bit torn here Russ... probably is you were a member here I would PM you but I can't do that and don't want to be rude.

Thanks, but there is a lot wrong with the Annexe...

I know that you are a regular here who uses the guest handle and genuine but I get the feeling is that everyone else wants this thread to drop off the list, or alternatively we would end up just talking to one another...

I may even start a thread in the Annexe on the subject of forum design; Not to do a "this place is better than that" but because the subject does interest me and I feel I could learn a lot by listening to views of others;

There must be lots of factors like what makes a forum easy to use, what are the relative merits of design decsions such as paging, guest policies, allowing splits, linear vs threaded formats, pros and cons of having moderators, of allowing users to create their own threads, the pros/cons of allowing users to edit their own threads, whether these descisions can contribute to the atmosphere in a forum, etc.

I think the subject is potentially fascinating but I feel that this environment is the wrong one... Jon