The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #39338   Message #566521
Posted By: GUEST,Genie
06-Oct-01 - 11:05 PM
Thread Name: National I.D. Card
Subject: RE: National I.D. Card
Doug,
Here in the Portland, OR, area we have (or at least used to have) two nude beaches--one at Rooster Rock park (the rock was so named by Lewis and Clark because of its appearance, except they used another word for "rooster") and one on Sauvie Island.
Back in my younger (read "stupider") years (before the melanoma), I used to hang out a lot at both. It would have been a perfect example of a place it would have been a blasted nuisance to have to carry ID! (If we carpooled, only the driver needed tho carry a driver license.)

I understand that recently the residents of Sauvie Island succeeded in limiting the nude beach area to about an eighth of a mile strip (no pun intended). As for Rooster Rock, I no longer need an all over tan since I no longer want a tan at all, so I'm afraid I have lost track of happenings at "the Rock." But if you want to see a lot of ordinary folks in the buff (like the Mudcat calendar?), that's where to go in PDX.


John in Kansas, and the rest of y'all,
I can see good arguments for extending the powers of surveillance to the agencies of our government that are entrusted with our protection. Wiretapping, photo radar and other public cameras, and ways of identifying people quickly can, indeed, help catch terrorists, spies, criminals!
But I have yet to see a type of police power that has not been widely abused by the rogue elements in our law enforcement/government -- to harrrass political opponents, line the pockets of the corrupt, etc. I don't expect the new anti-terrorism laws to be any less subject to abuse than have the extended powers associated with the "war on drugs."

Genie