Ollaimh, I'm sure there are nice people in Toronto. I met one once.

Hesperis, I'm certainly not moving to Orillia, after your account of earning 43 cents or whatever it was for six hours busking! :) Why TO? Well, it's mostly because I've been in rural/small town settings the last year and a half and feel like it's time to start a big city cycle... Montreal's cool, but being a maudite anglaise would limit my options, and Ottawa's OK but it doesn't have a subway and I hope to do some busking through the winter.

But if pubs in Toronto are smokey, that's a vote for Ottawa. I'm curious Bob, why did a non-smoking bylaw "not work" last time? Did a court overturn it, or was there no will to enforce it? I'm wondering because a bylaw has recently been passed in Ottawa, and the bar owners' association is taking the city to court.

Rick, I know, that's why I'm asking at Mudcat. Are you still doing your thing on Mondays?

Marion