LOL, Bill D. Gotta love it. A couple nights ago, I was in a pub/bar/cafe...........at one end there was a band playing Trad Acoustic music with a good audience. At the other end, there were 2 televisons--one facing each side of the room. One had Animal Planet, the other US football. In the middle where it was rather quiet was a group of people dicussing politics and other stuff.............sounds like Mudcat to me!