My description referred to a quadrant-model that was linked in a recent thread, and if I recall right most of the Liberals also were Libertarians. You know-- it had an axis, and you plotted your dot onto it. The axes were Libertarian/Authoritarian and Left/Right (or was it Liberal/Conservative)... anyhow I recall a whole BOATLOAD of people identifiying as leftie-libertarians. (Maybe all the conservatives posted after I quit reading the thread!)

But on the whole, the last person I would think of as normally being willing to see civil rights eroded would be a Mudcatter. In fact in a number of recent threads, I've seen some folks I know personally, who are as aggressively libertarian as you can get, post that in these times, they favor a tightening up WITH OVERSIGHTS in place to monitor, and with stopping points built in for any measures enacted.

Just because some people are not willing to post in response to a hate-monger does not mean they agree with the view of that person, or disagree with it for that matter. Some people, as our Guest may have an opportunity to learn, just will not discuss things they care about deeply with someone who cannot discuss in a civil fashion.

It reminds me of a time our daughter asked me to formulate some complicated response to some psych questions. It sounded like an interesting topic and she almost got me going. Then I said, "Waiddaminnit! Is this for a class? Are you interviewing a bunch of people just to see how they react to being interviewed, or is this a real question?" Yes, she admitted, she was just collecting data on how people act in interviews, with a "cover" question as the basis. "Forget it!" I said. "You want thinking at that level from me, it's gonna cost you! This brain is not for free borrowing!"

~S~