No, McGrath, "trashing" does not imply doing something damaging to something. It means consistent carping, bitching, finding fault with something. You never miss an opportunity to criticize the U. S. That's your priviledge, of course. Some Mudcatters who live hear in the U. S. eat it up, I just happen to be one Mudcatter who does not. I thik, were you to research the threads I have posted, you would not find me criticizing even one time the country you have chosen to call home. That is not because I feel you live in a "perfect" country.DougR