PS just finished reading thread (mea culpa) Bat goddess, I know Geoff and will send your greetings on the grapevine. Last year Grenoside was Fridays, but the pub has changed hands so situation this year not known. Oughtibridge Saturday nights, Ecclesfield Thursdays, I believe. Also see my previous message. If you can't get, buy 'Hark, Hark' from Village Carols, and several pints. Beware, they're addictive. By the way, the true aficianados (sp?) had their Harvest sing last month.