you would have to go there, cause really there aren't a lot of places to play as you would think, but just to walk up and down 16th avenue, is a sight in itself. we were kicked out of two record companies, and so we said the hell with it and just played the gigs that we had said up that week, we rented a hall and put on our own showcase, and the only person that came out that was worth anything was keith urban, then of the ranch, now he's a big time solo artist, but we still had the experience of being in music city U S A BOB