Way to go, Dave the Gnome!

kendall, I couldn't tell you the answer to that ("when do I lose my sex drive"), but I'm guessing that the loss or reduction of sex drive, if any, probably varies from one individual to another.

About using chemicals to change behavior... PMS is about suffering first, and behavior second. The reason for aleviating the symptoms of PMS is to reduce the suffering.

However, as with the woman SINSULL mentioned much earlier in this thread who lost her job because of PMS, sometimes the behaviors that can arise from the suffering associated with PMS can wreak havoc with a person's life. If that can be corrected, I can't imagine why a person wouldn't want to do it.

Jeri... yes, soy products do contain chemicals that the body processes into estrogen. Soy can be a very healthy source of estrogen for those of us who need to replace it during peri-menepause, or after menepause, but can also contribute to PMS if progesterone is not also suplemented. If I eat soy products, I supplement my progesterone in the same way that I would when I use the estrogen cream. If I don't, I start getting PMS symptoms.

Re: your question about women who don't use very many dairy products, eggs or meat, but who still experience PMS... in my case, I use very few dairy products. But I can get a wicked case of PMS just by using commercial grade mayonaise even as few as three or four times in a month. I'm unusually sensitive, but I think there are probably other women who are as sensitive as me.

Dairy products and eggs are found in a lot of places where people don't really think about them, mayonaise being one example. Also things like dips for veggies or potato chips, some salad dressings, cole-slaw, potato salad, products containing butter, and baked goods that contain eggs, such as cakes or brownies.

Aso, alcohol can have an estrogen-like effect on the body.