Exactly Ian. Not just out of their tree, but out of the entire sodding forest and accelerating. Good job you're one of the religious-and-relatively-sane majority eh? ;-)

Ah-hah, got a name for it now. It's the Eejit Horizon, formed around extremely dense ppl. All your sensible arguments fall into their immense personal gravity and are lost, and all that comes out are beams of nasty radiation which are toxic to anyone around them. And time gets distorted around them too - listening to them rattling on for a few minutes, you'd swear you'd been there hours.

Graham.