Dear Guest: In point of fact the Irish acceptance of soverinty over 32 counties was based in the treaty which concluded the Anglo Irish war, said treaty which provided for Britain to leave the remaining six counties in Ulster two years after the signing of the treaty. As such, more than an aspiration, citizens of the Northern counties have always had the right and have held Irish passports. I mention Carol Ann Kelly, there have been numerous child murders in retailation by crown forces. Rather than trading vague allusions, do recomend books, I read alot. I would also point out that throughout the war, the United States and Britain have sought to prove in US courts, nuetral environments free of censorship, that the IRA was involved in terrorism rather than insurection. They failed in every instance. I would direct your attention to the Doherty case, the decision of which I posted a few years ago here in responce to a solicitor friends, Richard Bridge's contention that the IRA was a terrorist group.
I think that our conversation proves, that in order for there to be real peace in Ireland, we need a process of truth and reconcilliation, as has been going on in South Africa.
Doug, yes some paciifists eat meat, and hunt. I am one of them. In fact, Quakers in Nantucket where some of the fiercest whalermen in the profession and many Nantucket Quaker girls would not become enguaged to a Quaker boy who had not killed a whale. There are a few Quaker vegitarians, but, that is a separate conviction from our Peace Testimony, which is not based on diet, but conviction that killing people is not something we wish to do.
Cheers all, Larry