Firstly Cllr, I am obviously not intellegent-but more intellegent than you or you wouldn't be a tory!! (only joking, well sort of- you can hold whatever beliefs you wish and I have no desire to enter a personal arguement) But my point was that I would prefer to address you by a name personally, not by your position in society,( which, irrespective of political colour does not need stating to us peasents and is of NO relavence from my point of view)and also not by your accademic qualifications.Perhaps others might like to call themselves; PhD or MA or Dr etc (then where would we be?)and,as I feel we are all of equal status in this forum (except in musical talent) Why should I need to refer to an earlier post to form my own opinion? ( It WAS you, in a much earlier thread who stated you'd called yourself Cllr "because you are one"!-as if it gave importance or creedence to your words above others, perhaps bus driver or nurse is of less importance, we have both here-but they don't name themselves as such)But I digress.

There is only one truth or fact scientifically speaking. Unfortunately people distort and re-write the truth to suit them.(There is a link beteen knowledge and power) So much "factual" evidence is from the writers interpretation of the truth and can be slurred to fit the required purpose without becoming untrue, merely biased in one direction or another to fit the required audience.(Such as Maggie taking Milton Friedmans work and making her distorted view fit her political dogma or history from the winners point of view)

That as it maybe, I still have no love for royalty.

Next-the princes trust does indeed do splendid work and some of the young people I work with have been direct recipients of such(but they bloody well need it, living near to or below the poverty line-artificially set at a low level so it doesn't seem so bad!). It is good that the advantaged help the disadvantaged-so they should (not enough do and with not enough impact on the lives of those they are helping, or their own wealth) This is not a brag, but a statement of fact, that my children have been encouraged never to pass a charity collection of any description for any purpose and not make a donation of even the smallest coin that they have in their possession. This they now do freely, with a consideration for their fellow beings, irrespective of race, religion or creed. It is a shame however that those of such privallege, have so much that they are in a much more fortunate position than the common man, who often cares more for his fellows than those of privallege.

Guest, the prince and others being patrons of so many organisations is a good thing-the other snooties have to keep up with the rest of the mob, so they join and sit there eating good free lunches, drinking champers, getting tax breaks for their donations and generally spending much more in one day than the monthly wages of a very hard working family man on basic minimum wage (not envy-fact). Most of them are sycophants.(And before it is suggested that I am denigrating the efforts of human beings to make more of their potential, to develop their skills and talents I am not- I applaud the eforts of everyone who manages improvement in even the smallest directions in their lives, but realise that many are prevented from doing so in our society for a variety of reasons)I also have to state that I equally despise the fact, we have prime ministers who consider themselves "presidential" and a dictator is a dictator no matter what political colour, Blair, Thatcher they are all the same(as are many politicians who use their role for their own ends or gain).

I'd also remove the church as well-in it's physical state, give the lands back to the people as common lands, return the huge wealth of the secular wing in this country to the poor from which it was stolen or extorted by fear. I would also make sure that those who devote their lives to their parish got a decent wage whilst the bishops etc, could walk barefoot and naked for all I care. Since the church and the monarchy have conspired over time to enslave and control the poor and weaker, I'd let those with genuine faith,though I do not but respect their position, have a decent life.

I'd have a Jimmi Hendrix head on the coins, or Ewan McColl- Hendrix for his being not british, black and against the establishment-and a heavy metal guitar player to boot. McColl for his sensitivety and documenting the suffering of his fellow man or Tony Benn, Gerald Nabaro (A most eloquent speaker in his time)Ken Livingstone or Lenny Henry-to prove the whole thing and idea is a joke! I'd actually prefer the Euro!

Still as one so lacking in intelegence, my words will carry no weight ( I do however know the difference between your and you're!)So for the time being, I'll leave it there.

A president, you vote for and can vote out. A monarchy believe it is their divine right to rule. It is by an accident of genetics and luck that we are who we are and are born where we are.

I've said it before-it is the worth of the person that counts, not what the person is worth.