Let me try again...It occurs to me Joseph, that each new individual who encounters Mudcat is likely experiencing it for the first time. You might need to shout at all the new users you will encounter in the future all at once, but I doubt that all will be tuned in at that very moment! Like a rat in a maze, each of us needs a trial or two to find the cheese.Each new request which is phrased with hope (but alas without titles) must be treated as such: hopeful, curious, and friendly I refer you to a recent book, "The Art of Happiness" by His Holiness The Dalai Lama and Howard C. Cutler, MD...nevertheless, I still love you even if you are taken by all the rest of the galcatters who got here first! haprgirl (I'll send you a bill!)