lamarca, I don't think your view of what disturbs the fundies quite tracks with what I know of the ones who have opened their hearts to me-- but it sure is accurate to the picture they show of themselves, on the outside.

I've been thinking about this more as the age-old struggle for Judeo-Christian people: the one between Grace and Works... the one between the experience of the living Christ and Legalism... the one between ministering to people in love and what Hardi and I call the Excuse From Ministry.

Sorry if that last bit makes no sense at the moment-- it will take a good bit of writing to hash it out so others can follow it, I think.

So I'll write more about that as my thoughts develop. I think I may have some thoughts that will be useful to people who want to interrupt fundie rhetoric and get someone's mind engaged.

~Susan