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Thread #41161   Message #597762
Posted By: musicmick
22-Nov-01 - 03:48 AM
Thread Name: Which Irish Troubles Songs are Offensive
Subject: RE: Which Irish Troubles Songs are Offensive
What a bunch of pantywaist Johnny-come-latelys you guys are. Irish rebel songs were and are relevent to their time. Domenic Behan, like his more celebrated brother, was a commited, active participant in the activities of the I.R.A. When he wrote a song like "Come Out, You Black and Tan" or "Patriot Game", he wasn't retelling tales like Stan Rogers did. Domenic wrote and sang about the war that raged in his own time. When he sang,"Come all you young rebels, and list' while I sing" he was talking to his comrades, not his ancesters. If you are not involved in the movement, these songs must seem archaic but to Irish patriots, they are the anthems of an occupied land and the people who still live under an alian flag. If some Brits are offended by the sentiments expressed in these songs, I have a solution. When England gets the hell out of Ireland, I will stop singing them. Actually, those songs are pretty mild. Try listening to gems like "One Sunday Morning, While On My Way to Mass" or my personal favorite,"Take It Down From the Mast, Irish Traitors" (I got booted out of O'Doneghue's on Merion Row for singing that one) Tragicly, these songs are seminal to Irish tradition. In that beautiful land that has known so little freedom, cultural survival has been allied to resistance and rebelion for centuries. Poetry, stories and songs have been the manna for an impoverished, unarmed peasent army, whose perserverence has delived twenty-six of the enslaved thirty-two counties thus far. In a nutshell, if you can relate to an oppressed people, you need feel no embaressment about singing the songs that chronicle that oppression. As for yor audience's sensibilities, I suppose one should be circumspect. After all, you wouldn't want to distress a Klansman by singing "We Shall Overcome" Mike Miller