Good point, Naemanson, and all too true. This is why I get my neck in a bow when people start saying "Christians say -- " and then they quote somebody like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or someone else of that stripe. Those bozos don't speak for me -- or a lot of other people. When people of any religion or denomination get the half-assed idea that God has called them to be soldiers in a holy war, crusade, jihad, or whatever they want to call it, look out!!Don Firth