Alex, I'm afraid I have to side with Murray on this. The writings of the church fathers (not mothers?) tend to be an individualistic interpretation and rationalization of the basic document.

Regarding the actions of the US versus the "Evil Ones" Mr. Bush needs to reread that section of the Bible that says "Thou Shalt Not Kill." There are no subclauses or exceptions. I think we have an oppotunity to look for a new way to pursue justice. We should look for a way other than bombs and machine guns. However, that would not be as politically convenient as the bombs.