Murray's comment about McGrath of Harlow burying his head in the sand was rude, and shortsighted but not completely without basis.

It is my understanding that the 19 hijackers had a lot of external support from somewhere and there are many reasons to believe it was Afghanistan. Bin Laden was there at the time and he did have the run of the country, they used modern technology; Video ads, media interviews and press conferences, to recruit. They had access to satellite phones, and offshore bank accounts. They had traning camps with mock ups of buildings some of the rooms of which contained christian crosses.

The 19 required plans and papers to enter the US and apparantly received a large training budget. $50,000 to do a simulator course on the 767 is not pocket change. They were inserted into the US as "Sleepers" to build their covers and prepare. The fact that they all used the same M.O. at the same time smacks of external control. Some may not believe this control came from Afghanistan but most of the rest of the world does.

By the way, except for these details, I agree with MacGrath on the substance of his criticism of Macleod's post.

But I would so so far as Joe has. On the face of them no one of MacLeod's posts crosses the line as being unacceptably bigoted or offensive. For instance, the "gays" one looks like he just had a controversial thought and wanted to express it.

In each, it appears he is trying to make some reasoned albeit flawed, points, but taken together a pattern emerges where it seems he is just trying to stir things up.

I think we've been trolled.