thank you Gary!! Please keep trying Rick....it just MIGHT work!! I suspect that each of us struggling to learn this stuff may have to individually reorganize these posts according to our learning styles. I think the problem for me may be recognizing which informaton I should put aside for now.....and which ones I need to "study" first. For me, I'm taking Gary's last post, your first post and John In Kansas' post (for kat)as my first "lesson"..feels like it might sink in. And then "harvest" more here for Lesson #2. The great thing about this Rick, is that I can go out for recess ANYTIME I want and don't need to wait for the bell....bg.