Yes, giving is fun. The older I get, the more I enjoy giving things, and if people accept them in the same spirit, so much the better.

Clinton, that was a woonderful phrase: 'there is nothing intrinsically Christian about Christmas'. With greatest respect, old boy, there has to be something Christian about Christ-time... but indeed, not necessarily about Dec 25th!!!

Mudcatter Jeannie and I led worship at an Oxfordshire church service on the feast of Tabernacles (October-ish) and wished the congregation Happy Christmas, on the grounds that it was one of the likely dates. We got a very strange reaction!!!

Happy december - Ian B