Jaysus - dropped in for a minute between visits with the grandkids. Putting on my professional computer geek hat.

Computer security is an oxymoron. Most security systems are little more than adding layers of complexity on top of each other to dissuade all but the most determined individuals. There are steps that can be taken to prevent the random hack-pass, from what I have seen, they have been. On a board like this, one that is not moderated by folks being PAID to monitor and control it, that seems reasonable. To expect more is a little silly (after all, it is NOT someones full time - paid job, its a hobby). To openly discuss ways to circumvent the proceedures is uncalled for. I've seen other boards shut down by the sys-ops because they got to be too much like work.

Just play nice, folks. We're supposed to be here for fun, right?

Pete Walen Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst (at a mid-size corporation that shall remain nameless so they don't have a reason to yell at me again - last time was for an interview on software development techniques. Company name was not even MENTIONED in the body of the story... yegodsandlittlefishes...)