Glad to see Jeff got you sorted on your membership cookie, Jon. I know it sounds as though you are looking for something more in the 3D world and it sounds as though you've been around the Mudcat before, but you might not know about a couple of new things we have, along with a couple of new scholarly types.

One is the new permathread, Song Origins which George Seto started. Through his diligent searching and the contributions of many others, including Masato and Dicho, we've got a lot of threads, alphabetised, which give a lot of interesting info, some of it quite *academic.*

Anyway, I guess I would advise you to stick around Mudcat more, though it may not seem as scholarly as in early days, it's still more so than a lot of places AND you will hear of 3D camps and such here.

Good luck and welcome back!

kat