OK, let's go to the horse's mouth on this one. I am a believer in the old (or new ) adage: "If you ask them, they will answer." Some mudcatter must know someone at Martin. Ask them to get Chris the 4th or 5th or whatever to come on the mudcat and explain who wants and plays the tipple. There have been two in Toronto for years now and they DON'T SELL! What's the deal Martin?