My family doesn't DO Easter, I guess, so it hasn't bothered me as much, but yeah!

You're all right, bad thread name. What I'm trying to do is find a way to celebrate the secular aspects (love of family, presents, evergreens) at ChristmasTIME without the Christian aspects, which ought to be avoidable since they are, or appear to be, rather independent of the religious stuff. that is, families exist, presents exist or can exist, and evergreens exist, as do seasons. I'm glad though that people are enjoying this one without anybody getting on their high horse...

But to clarify again, I'm not, actually, against the commercialism. I'm against the religious tones OF the commercialism. If it were frankly commercial, that would be fine - NON-Christian Christmas carols, NON-Christian Christmas commercials, yada yada yada, would be LESS offensive to me. I don't object to marketing being in my face, I work in marketing. What I can't stand is the underlying message of the thing being marketed being Good In God's Eyes or something. I mind the USE of religious music in stores to sell stuff - but if the music were secular, it wouldn't get to me as badly. If we could go all the way to commercial and LEAVE the religion, that would be OK with me.