kalleea, that is SO valid. I have no truck with anyone who takes the lofty "You have to be born with it , you can't learn it" view.

I used to go to a song circle where there were two "musicians" who insisted on joining in on every song whethere they knew the chords or not, and it really used to piss me off hearing all those wrong chords. One night I tuned my guitar exactly a quarter tone low. Caused no end of problems to the would be accompanists, but I didn't have any problem singing in tune a quarter tone below concert pitch.

(I later decided I was being too petty and didn't do it again)

Murray