Hey, I think I might be getting it now. You use the flies to catch the fish!!! I'm still alittle lost as to why you'd want to stand asshole deep in a creek if the flies ARE biting. Plus it would seem to me to be a lot harder to fish for the flies first than to catch a fish with a fly. Have you tried a worm? How about a boat? You know, a #8 over the side, snag a few fightin' crappies......Just somethin' to consider.catspaw