UJ you talk like the people and the government are two different things. In my book, the government IS the people. You are right about the corruption of the labor unions,and their grab for power, but, how is that different from the corruption(Teapot dome scandal) and the power of the robber barons? At least, we of the middle class have gotten considerable benefit from the labor unions which we never got from the robber barons. Labor leaders can be voted out, just as corrupt politicians can. Look, someone is going to be the boss, and I prefer a man like John L. Lewis to Andrew Carnagie. And as far as someone coming in the night to take you away, I'd say that John Ashcroft is a hell of a lot more dangerous than any liberal I ever met.Even Abe Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, and you can bet Ashcroft is chomping at the bit to do it again. Bush and Rumsfeld are telling us that the terrorists in Cuba will not be treated like prisoners of war, yet, Dubbya keeps saying we are at war. He cant have it both ways. We are at war to justify what he has done to the economy, but, the prisoners are not prisoners of war? He has spent 50 billion dollars on this "war", so, what happened to the 2 trillion dollar surplus that Willy left? My math tells me that it went into the pockets of the filthy rich who put him into the white house. Speaking of Ashcroft, how about his crusade to cover the statue at the Justice Dept.? How anal can you get? I've seen posts by guys like Doug reminding us that Gore lost in his own state? Ashcroft lost to a dead man in his own state.