Mr Red - I was trying to stay on thread but Herga meets at the Royal Oak, Peel Road, Wealdstone. Thanks to road improvements it's now quite difficult to find, even for people who live in London, like Peta Webb, never mind mad folk from Yorkshire and other parts. We have a website, and a how to get there map is at

http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/close/xqu58/herga/hergamap.htm

should you ever happen this way on a Monday (not Bank Holidays.

Kitty