I think UJ needs to be more sure of his definitons of types of government. Socalism is NOT communism. I am unashamedly a socialist, I truely believe that the rich should pay higher taxes then the poor because they can afford it. I believe in free education and health servies for all, do that make me a comunist? No. What needs to be remembered is that socialism spans a wide range of views between capitalist ones and communist ones but can not be accuratly classed as either.

Also, I agree with McGrath that communisn it's it's true form has not been seen. In all example so far the system fell down when the rich got greedy and took more for themselves. True communism will probably never be seen as the people with the power always become greedy and this it flips from communism to the far, far extreem of capitalism, where not only do the people with the money make the rules, they control absolutly everything. True communism would be ionteresting to watch and study to see if Humans can ever live exactly equally and no single one of them take control but as I said before, I doubt this will ever happen and certainly not in my lifetime.

So, UJ, please remember, socalism was once described as capitalism with a consience (sp?), it is not communism, but a viable form of goverment, well tried and well tested.