Yes, Shambles, some people can sort out hornpipes (and walking) for themselves, but some can't. (Stroke victims for instance.) I've no idea why Nicola found some aspects of traditional music confusing, but many of us have done, me included. If I've said only what Nicola knew already, I owe an apology to her, but not to you. I wouldn't presume to tell you how to play a hornpipe as your reputation precedes you *G*