I don't have hours to spend at the computer each day and I visit Mudcat not out of any desire for community or relationship but for information and amusement. I am not amused by someone being cruel to someone else. Nor am I amused by setting animals on fire or walking down a street with a baseball bat looking for someone to hit. As a rule I ignore threads like this one, and in threads I do check I usually move pretty quickly from comments that are intended to insult or inflame. I have skipped quite a few in this thread. But I do appreciate the many good things Mudcat has to offer. It has been a good source of reliable information and interesting opinions and is far more user friendly than any such sites I have seen. It is the only one I visit with any regularity. I guess my only real complaint would be the frequency with which I lose my cookie, and I have been too lazy to reset it. I have never understood or been too sympathetic for people who engage in vandalism or random violent attacts whether it be with rocks or words. If Max chooses to deal with it, it is his call. Mudcat may lose something, but I suspect that it will be a better place. I have never found civility to be an awful thing. The thought of excluding those who have no purpose for being here other than to vandalize and terrorize is not that awful either.