So far from read the above I can se that DIGGER is the only one willing to give the two side a chance to work together. Everyone seems to want to paint the other black! OH! if only this was a perfect world! What is wrong with the two working along side by side. (not like the 'token gesture' Time Team try and make out)Would each not learn from each other? metal detectorists would learn what is expected of them from archaeologists and try and rid themselves of the tag 'pot-holers or night hawks' and archaeologists may learn some of the techniques used by metal detectorists. I'm sure metal detectorists go out looking for (excuse the over used term) local history and not SHINY OBJECTS as stated. Why cant folk take off the blinkers and see beyond their self imposed rules and boundries and be prepared to give it a try. Good thread DIGGER, good debate.SRS did you catalogue where you picked up the arrow and spearheads? people in glass houses!