Or you could try going to the link provided in Geoff the Duck's "Mudcat Time Warp" thread, back to Oct 13 1999, and see what Mudcat was like before BS and guest flaming were the norm.

We actually discussed music, quite peacefully and peaceably then. Yes, us evil guests who would like it to be that way again--we're the problem.

I would certainly trade the PMs for the old Mudcat any day. But the flame warriors want to keep their playpen the way it is today.

At least now we have a way of showing others the kind of Mudcat forum we want directly.