Alistair, the raging pedant in me would like to point out that "the hoi polloi" is tautologous. It's just "hoi polloi". I'd like to point it out - but I suspect I can't spell it.....!! Naturally, I'm accepted everywhere, as not only do I possess innate natural charm and modesty, but I can and do piss people off with quite stunning speed. Can't think why....... ! BGMo