Carol C I was speaking strictly for myself. To me, it is a piddling sum, and I would gladly pay it. Guest, there is something wrong with my server, and I am unable to make any links work. No one seems to know what is wrong. Perhaps I did not make myself clear, what I want to know is, how does these other site compare with Mudcat? And, if they are that great, why are you here? They must have something going for them besides being free???