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Thread #44417   Message #654004
Posted By: GUEST
20-Feb-02 - 10:52 AM
Thread Name: The Music of Hate -VH1 Tonight
Subject: RE: The Music of Hate -VH1 Tonight
There is a lot of punk music that isn't hatecore that carries a message of hatred, death, destruction and despair. I wasn't the least bit shocked by the lyrics--it was a program about neo-Nazi musicians, so what were we to expect? Just what we saw!

What I would use in it's place is a legitimate documentary, not a "Behind the Music" format. It would include lots of interviews with the kids involved in the scene. Their tales of how they came to be involved in it. And interviews with kids who got out of it. As it was, this program had very little from kids themselves, and so came off very preachy, IMO. Which didn't surprise me, considering who produced the film--the organization (whose name I currently forget), is a faith based Christian organization which seems pretty opposed to punk music of any sort. Which means the kids who are into punk won't give the program much credence. It just wasn't credible, because it didn't talk to any of them, just preached down to them (I watched it with my daughter, who does know the history of the punk movement pretty well).

I would have included the history of punk, ska, heavy metal, and how the skinheads are the thread that runs through them all. I would talk about how difficult it is for newcomers and outsiders to distinguish between the punk genres in particular, which has both anti-racist and racist skinhead elements, both of whom look and sound very much the same, except for the lyrics which usually can't be easily understood when performed (which is why we needed the subtitles--we'd never have heard the lyric if it hadn't been provided).

Then, I would have put the film on a channel where it could have reached the audience of kids who need to learn about it, rather than on a channel where it will just alarm parents, and make the establishment types wring their hands and pass legislation that discriminates against teenagers.

As you might guess kat, I'm pretty opinionated about the subject!