Bagpuss Right Toe, Right Oh! I think Mr Wheatstone, who's bicenteniel it is this year (spot the electronic engineer living near Gloucester) would concur that playing the concertina with the foot should for a metre. **g** AND as Bagpuss is your appellation - Sandra Kerr must be your inspiration? At least you can't kick the habit (very hard). Encouragement you want? You got it!