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Thread #42222   Message #661853
Posted By: Malcolm Douglas
03-Mar-02 - 12:13 PM
Thread Name: Tune Add: Missing tunes: WANTED - part EIGHT
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing tunes: WANTED - part EIGHT
3855)   YOU GENTLEMEN OF ENGLAND FARE:  The DT text is from Flander and Olney's Ballads Migrant in New England (1953); no tune was given in that book, as the text was "received by mail from James Copeland of Brideport, Connecticut".  There is, however, a reasonably close version, with tune, in Helen Creighton's Songs and Ballads from Nova Scotia (1932).  This was noted from Mr. Ben Hennebury of Devil's Island, and I've made a midi from that notation.

Mr. Copeland's text was reproduced verbatim, including his (probably accidental) rendering of "coronation" as "croronation".  There are two errors in the DT file; in verse 6 line 3, "Beat" should be "great", and in verse 7, line 5 should end at "love", "I Hope" being the first part of line 6.  Parts of the text have become garbled in the course of transmission, or require explanation; the information comes from Roy Palmer's Boxing the Compass (2001; formerly The Oxford Book of Sea Songs), where he gives a text called England's Great Loss by a Storm of Wind .

Verse 3 line 2:  "the old ram's head": a headland to the west of Plymouth, now called Rame Head.
line 5:  "fisher noes": originally "Fisher's Nose", part of the foreshore at the entrance to Sutton Harbour, Plymouth.
line 6:  "Thinking to bring our palamoers": in earlier versions, "Thinking to fetch up in Hamose", Hamoaze being a name for the mouth of the River Tamar.

Verse 5: The following is the equivalent verse from the set published by Palmer, taken from J. Ashton's Real Sailors' Songs (1891):

When we came to Northumberland Rock
The Lion, Lynx and Antelope,
The Loyalty and Eagle too,
The Elizabeth made all to rue:
She ran astern and the line broke,
And sunk the Hardwick at a stroke.

Re. Northumberland Rock, Palmer comments "This line in one version reads: Ashore went the Northumberland."

The ballad was made on an historical event.  Palmer again: "The outcome of the storm of September (not November) 1691, was less disastrous than the ballad indicates: two ships, the Coronation and the Harwich, were lost, and two more, the Royal Oak and the Northumberland, went aground but were later refloated."

A broadside example can be seen at  Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads:

Gale. 15 November ("You gentlemen of England fair, who live at home free from all care ...")  Printed c.1840 by R. Barr of Marsh Lane, Leeds.