I feel so totally silly. When Larry first posted this, I hadn't heard of pagans either: I thought he was talking about Hell's Angel's fighting Wiccans! Some rather bizarre imagery was forming in my head.
Steve: Your prior comments about you biking/riding around Idaho with your wife had me picturing two thin tough yuppies on bicycles.
oh, and my biker story: Back in the early seventies, a friend of mine got paralyzed in a car accident. I took him to a Led Zeppelin concert back in the good old days of festival seating. Behind us, going in, were Hell's Angels and I did not like it at all. Then, the crowd started that pushing from the back thing, before the doors had opened. It was getting pretty damned scary, with people (and me) starting to get shoved right over the guy's wheelchair. Then, without a word from them, I noticed that these guys had formed a semi-circle around us and were pushing back against the crowd to protect the guy in the wheelchair. Just a silly little isolated incident, I know. But it's the way they did it so quietly that makes it stick in my mind.