Now, the ol bobert doesn't play the 12 string much because its a pain to tune, probably more because its an Alverez, and not a Guild or Martin, but I do have one question: I have not tried this but I've been told that if after you get the danged thing in standard tuning, you remove the primary strings (leaving only the harmonic strings) that the guitar takes on a entire sound of it's own. Any Catfolk know about this trick? (And no, I'm not trying to start any purist fights here. Just curious.)