thanks guys, and I'm in East Scotland, if that helps. I have played at weddings and that before, but not with these guys, and yes, the whole coffee bars thing is a bit annoying. the only places in town are bars anyway, apart from actual venues, like my school and the town hall. Which is where the problem lies. you have to be a rock band to get in on band night - obviously - otherwise, you can't get the hall for love nor money - well, you can, but it's a lot of money, and not much point if the school is pasing flyers about!