Fair enough, Grab, I don't believe in letting cats run loose in urban areas, either, but I don't think they were specifically *designed* just for farms. In ancient Tibet, for instance, there were trained temple Guard Cats, which were Siamese.

And, sorry, but I guess it depends on the border collie. Mine is a McNab, which was developed by a fellow in California, from one sire out of Scotland. They are slightly shorter, with a short coat and freckles on their legs. While mine would certainly bite anyone who tried to harm me, he will not go after anyone just on his own. I have neighbours and others who come into the yard and he's never raised a fuss, unless it's another dog. He IS fierce when one first comes to the door of house or car, but once i tell him it's okay, he is fine, a little grumbly, but quite socialable with those who like dogs. Others he just ignores.

kat