Not only is what we are doing counter-productive, Lonesome, but hypocritical. Where were we when the Tutsis were Killing the Hutus in Rwanda (or are we just more concerned about protecting white people than black?) (or perhaps in stabilizing an area we're interested in as the site of an oil pipeline) and where were (are) we when the Indonesian were killing the East Timorese. I can tell you where we were/are in the latter case--selling weapons to the Indonesians. --seed